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a comparison between international health services

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the uk’s national health service - the nhs: usa comparison
for those who care about comparative data on health services

One of the central points is that is, it is very difficult to compare systems. In the United States, both ‘sides’ of the health care discussion are trimming mightily, some are even making it up as they go along! Most are dreadfully uninformed, and are making little effort to correct that problem. Most are just cheering for football teams without even knowing the point of the game.

The reasons for the French and the British reporting better life expectancy and infant mortality rates than those in the USA, while their health services cost less as a percentage of GDP, are complex. One is the USA being ahead on the fat curve - they have started to reduce the numbers of morbidly obese people. Another reason is that, in the States, there are guns for killing in ghettos and for convenient suicide. These statistics are very poor and dubious indicators of the state of a country’s medical services. There are many extraneous factors making such statistics unreliable.

In the USA, people can choose medical services. People are neurotic, especially about their own health. There is much corruption in the US health industry. For instance, the estimate is the drug companies employ about one sales rep. for every 4.7 medics. The profits pay for ‘conferences’ in exotic locations. In the USA, law makers are handsomely bribed to produce laws that suit large corporations such as big pharma and the insurance industry.

US medics are extremely cautious, they order every test they can manage, in order to protect themselves against law suits. That also ups the bills! Most advances in medicine originate (or are developed) in the USA. They are sold cheaper in overseas government-run systems than in the USA, thus American medicine tends to subsidise the likes of the NHS.

For examples of corruption in US government see, for example, Dick Morris.click to return

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“An embarrassed Conservative Party leadership was forced to rebuke one of its MEPs yesterday after he spent the last week on a tour of the United States rubbishing the NHS in a series of interviews.

Daniel Hannan, an outspoken and popular Conservative politician, gave a damning verdict on the British health service, telling American television viewers: "I wouldn't wish it on anybody." ” [Quoted from timesonline.co.uk]

  1. Both the UK and the US health systems ration.

  2. Stephen Hawking, who has motor neurone disease [Gehrig’s disease, also known as ALS - aminotrophic lateral sclerosis] and has recently claimed that he owed his life to the NHS. He is both wealthy in his own right and is enmeshed in Cambridge academic society. Cambridge has one of the most advanced health centres in the world for that sort of disease.

  3. In both countries, the richer you are, the better off you are. But I suspect you are better off in the UK if you are poor.

  4. Both the French and British health systems are packed with medics who should be better educated. US medics I have met are better trained. The UK system is filthy compared with anything I have seen in France. The service is much quicker in France, they have about twice the medics per head of population.

  5. All Western societies provide for the poor, including the USA.

  6. In my view, a major improvement in France is that (those) who can afford to, pay about 30% of bills (and that is widely covered by private insurance). Anything given away ‘free’ is expensive.

  7. A major advantage in France is it is simple and easy to obtain second opinions and to dump incompetent medics.

If you want the NHS, you’re welcome, but no serious politician dare say that! Of course the politicians will go private when it matters, just as they do in education.

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a partisan article on stephen hawking’s involvement with the uk national health service

  1. Stephen Hawking is wealthy in his own right and is not solely dependent on the NHS.

  2. He is embedded in Cambridge academia, with access to one of the world centres of excellence for his type of problem (motor neurone disease).

    Research into diseases, such as motor neurone disease, is an integrated whole with the patients being the guinea pigs and with high-level people (neurologists in this case) running the trials. Statisticians, ethicists, biochemists/big pharmaceutical companies all working together. Even GPs and generalist neurologists form links in the teams. Commonly, medics go on to be part of research teams and work for big pharma etc.

    The results of the labs tie into the work of researchers looking to patent a treatment and to develop a start-up with venture capital. Cambridge, where Hawking is based, is deeply involved in the process.

I have little doubt that Hawking’s outcomes would have been different in the extreme if he were Mister Smith of 7 Back Street Cul-de-sac. Hawking has a disease which usually kills in less than a decade. He has survived about 40 years. In these circumstances, it is very difficult to believe that he receives standard NHS care.

Of course, Hawking is not treated as Sam Sawkins would be - I doubt Sam would have a chance in a million of even obtaining an appointment with some of Hawking’s medics.

I am advising a person with a similar nasty. Already I know more than the first-line neurologist, let alone the general practitioner. And I am still studying hard!

I have access Sam couldn’t, simply because I know more and push harder; and I have paid extra when necessary. There ain’t no equality in the real world, and certainly not for Hawking. So, in that sense he is certainly trimming, if not outright lying. Hawking is not ‘equal’ in the NHS, and he would not be ‘equal’ in the USA. Nor is Ted Kennedy, and nor are congressmen, and nor are the star TV anchors at Fox News.

Any suggestions otherwise are abuse of rational argument.

Maybe it was a mere coincidence that, coincidentally with Stephen Hawking’s endorsement of the NHS, President Obama, somewhat besieged in his attempt to create a public health system in the USA, rushed him a US government medal?

In my view, it is clear that Brown the Clown and Obama are doing the you-scratch-my-back gavotte.click to return

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the ten commandments of business failure - and the nhs

Extracted from a press release.

“Ten Commandments of Business Failure, first drawn up by Donald R. Keough, the past president and former CEO of the Coca-Cola Company.

  1. Stop taking risks. A 2006 study of change capability by the Office of Government Commerce gave the NHS a score of just two out of five points for seven of the nine categories assessed.

  2. Be inflexible. Businesses are hamstrung by state control over factors of production: staff pay is set centrally; capital expenditure is constrained by the DH; the National Programme for IT is a top-down programme; and NICE increasingly decides what treatment can be offered. Local initiative is crowded out

The complete list is at the ten commandments of business failure - and the nhs.

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health reports from the world health organisation and others

For those who care about comparative data on the health services, in contrast to the highly uninformed twittering regarding the British NHS and Obama’s ambitions to take over another swathe of the USA economy.

  • WHO, 1997 figures - see Annex Table 1. I do not know whether there have been any updates. Governments tend to hate comparisons and do not cooperate well. Note carefully the categories, which are almost designed to generate results that please the WHO.

    “Annex Table 1 is designed as a guide for using Annex Tables 5-7, 9 and 10. Each measure of goal attainment and performance - disability-adjusted life expectancy, health equality in terms of child survival, responsiveness level, responsiveness distribution, fairness of financial contribution, performance on level of health, and overall health system performance -is reported as a league table ranked from the highest level of achievement or performance to the lowest level....”

    Plenty of double talk. Many other factors have much greater effects on a nation’s health than do medical services, for instance ‘race’, fatness, illegals, poverty. Thus the WHO report is not a reasonable assessment of a society’s health services. click to return


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