On aliquid [1]
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Translated for abelard from the original Latin by Dr. Carolinne White carolinne.white@bodley.ox.ac.uk |
From pp. 171 to 180
of Die Sentenzen Rolands nachmals Papstes Alexander III, with
annotations by P. Fr. Ambrosius M. Gietl, O. Pr. published by Herdersche Verlagshandlung, Freiburg im Breisgau, 1891. |
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On the contrary: Christ is a creature and was mortal, visible and able to suffer; but there is no person in the Trinity which is not the creator and a creature; and each one is also immortal, invisible and unable to suffer: therefore Christ is not the third person in the Trinity. Again, Christ has parts, but each of the persons in the Trinity is a being of the utmost simplicity and lacks parts: therefore Christ is not the third person in the Trinity. To which we say that Christ is the third person in the Trinity but according to his divine nature and not according to his human nature, especially since according to his human nature he is not a person, and so that we may speak more truthfully and not lie, he is not anything, either. For he cannot be said to be anything as a result of the fact that Christ is man but rather, if it is allowed, of some kind. The statement, ‘Christ is a creature’ etc. is completely true of him according to his human nature and he himself according to his human nature is not any of those persons. The statement, ‘He has parts’ etc. is to be understood of him according to his human nature. But when Augustine states in support of the other viewpoint, ‘the assumed and the assumer are one and the same person in the Trinity’, he does not mean by this that the thing assumed by the Word becomes a person of the Word, but he says this to destroy the error of those people who say that there are two persons in Christ, one assuming and the other assumed. The meaning is that the assumed and the assumer are one and the same person in the Trinity, in other words, the assumed one is united in a union of the person to the thing which assumes, that is, the Word, which is the third person in the Trinity. It is asked whether Christ is Word or man, or Word and man. It is proved that Christ is the Word. Christ is God; therefore he is the Father or the Word or the Holy Spirit, but he is not the Father or the Spirit and so he is the Word. Again, that he is man and the Word is proved by the authority of Augustine who speaks of Christ in connection with the Epistle to the Romans. For he says, ‘So great is the union of both natures, that he is said to be wholly God and wholly man and interchangeably God-man and man-God.’ It is therefore clear that he is God and man. On the contrary: it is proved that Christ is not the Word. The Word is in Christ; therefore the Word is not Christ. For nothing, according to the authority, is that in which it is. If the Word is not Christ, then, by a simple reversal, Christ is not the Word, either. Again, it is proved that Christ is not a man. He is not the man assumed nor is he another man, and so he is not a man. It is clear that he is not another man. It is proved that he is not the man assumed: the man assumed is not a man, for if it were a man it would also be a person. Therefore Christ is not a man. To which we say that Christ is true man and true God according to this statement, ‘Perfect God, perfect man’ etc. In the case of the statement, ‘The Word is in Christ, therefore Christ is not the Word’, this does not follow. It is certainly true in the case of natural things, as for example, if whiteness or something of this kind is in Socrates, then it is not Socrates, but when the discussion concerns heavenly theology, arguments of this kind definitely have no place. So that if it is stated,’ Justice is in God, therefore justice is not God’, this does not follow. For justice itself is God and God is justice itself. And so although the Word is said to be in Christ, the Word is still Christ and Christ is the Word. Or let us say that this phrase, namely, ‘the Word is in Christ’ is wrong, just like that one: ‘justice is in God.’ For justice is said to be in us in a different way from the way it is in God. For in us justice exists in such a way that we are different because of this justice. But in God justice is said to exist because he himself is justice and so that phrase in which it is stated, ‘justice is in God’ is wrong, for it would only be legitimate if it meant that justice is God or the other way round. And the same is true of the statement that, ‘The Word is in Christ, in other words, Christ is the Word’. But the statement, ‘he is not man because he is not the man assumed’ etc. is a false proposition. For it claims that the man assumed, that is the human nature, is the man, although it is not the man. And so we must not accept the statement, ‘he is not a man because he is neither the man assumed nor another man’, because that is a false proposition and it is true that Christ is a man. |
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1 | The Latin word aliquid roughly translates to mean, “or otherwise”. Thus, much medieval theological discussion on the ‘trinity’ revolved around whether ‘christ’ was part of ‘god’, or he was a man, “or otherwise”. These discussions have become further mired by changing meanings of the word person, both in Latin and in English. This document is provided as background information for analysis of the linkage between Aristotelian logic and authoritarianism. It forms background to the aliquid section in ‘heresy’, authority, quarrels and words. This analysis, including the aliquid issue, is developed further in “Logic has made me hated among men”. That document treats the remainder of the charges against Abelard, made at Sens in 1141, charges related primarily to Abelard’s logical probing of medieval ‘theology’. (The first part of this analysis can be found at the logic of ethics). |
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